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Unfortunately, due to the change in ownership of this web site and the lack of response by the owners to my requests to remove my email address from all administrative-level notifications and functionality, I have decided to remove my posts on AKFF. Thank you for the great times, the fantastic learning experiences and the many many fish. If you are desperate for the old content of this particular post, it is available below base64 encoded and bzip2 compressed.

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Guys,

Just to re-inforce Dodge's point.

In 1987 I was a competive sailor. The missus noticed a spot on my back. The spot was examined by my doctor who said "I don't think it is a problem, but I'll cut it out".

The pathology results weren't good. The doctor telephoned and said the nasty words malignant melanoma, and added "some people last less than 3 months with this one". Next day I was in hospital for a wider excision.

Luckily they got everything in time.

Don't stuff about. If you have anything unusual get it checked. Now.

Preferably get your GP to send you to a skin specialist.

Regards,

Big O
 

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Sorry to raise an old thread.
I have finally plucked up the courage to post the following pics.

I am 35. And have had my fist cancer removed. Not a melamoma. But the start of what I now have to watch for.

I had gotten badly sun burnt many times during the family summer holidays when I was in my early teens. Often pealing so badly that my brother and I would look like fish after a swim. With all the burst blisters full of water. (yuck) You don't think about it that way when your a kid. It was not through lack of Sunscreen. It was becasuse on some days I was at a beach from sun up to sun down. Sunscreen every few hours. Yeah right. Every time after a swim, Yeah right. I was still wet. But the time your dry enought to remember, You had had quite a lot of sun time. Mum and Dad tried their best. My dad, My brother and I now all have to watch out for the little buggers that can kill.

As a parent, I now have the care of my children. Hats. Sun screen. All the time.

I have noticed the sun is extreme in the ACT in the burn factor. The days are cool but that sun burns in no time.

I enjoy my outdoors. Camping, Gardening, Fishing. But that great big ball or radation thats in the Sky, is unforgiving over time.

Cover up.

Adrian
 

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Adrian

The medico has done a nice job on your nose just hope you don't wear glasses as that could be a pain in the arse until healed, and expect the donor site will start to itch soon but good thing to have behind you....all the best for a good recovery.

Never mind seeing this thread re-appear to keep it alive for newer members awareness

I go up for some more freezing on the face and body in 10 days time and expect there will be some more filleting to be done as well [at least one I know of]...I think I'm paying for my docs proposed kayak and gives us some chatter while he slices my old meat :lol:
 

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Now this is the thread we just gotta keep alive. You've all scared the hell outta me, but then that's what prevention is all about.

I dips me lid to you Dodge and GuardianzAct. Hope you both stay on top of it and I wish you well. You're worth your weight in gold.

Gatesy - I picked up on your phrase "the great ball of death" a while ago and my workmates have adopted it. Good thing if it kicks on.

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My mum had to have 4 operations to remove one skin cancer - surgeon must have been too damm timid to cut out enough.

People do die from skin cancer - be warned fellas (and ladies) use protection.
 

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I have to agree guys regular check ups is a must now. I have been lucky in the fact that i have worked and played outside all my life, building roofs was the worst. Always wore shirt sunscreen and i go with mick here the akubra or a version of.

I get checked out every six months to a year and have only have a couple of suspect spots nitroed off so far.

I personally like the banana boat 30 plus sport it seems to work for longer if your sweating or partially getting wet, like yakking.

Cheers Dave
 

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at 40 i had a small melanoma, about the size of 2 match heads, removed from my chest. left a scar about as big as a fifty cent piece. scared the s%&*t out of me.

ive had many biopsys since, only one more was potentially dangerous. i located it about 1 cm to the left of my 'tackle', amoungst the furry stuff. on spotting that black mark, put the wind up me. i had it removed, and wasnt the most fun ive had......

i suggest you blokes get your partner check you for spots on places it might be awkard for yourself to see, and i mean EVERYWHERE!!!. the sun doesnt have to have been there much for you to get a cancer there. i dont know how that works? ive never sun bathed naked, yet i get a skin cancer where the sun dont shine....could there be more to skin cancers than just sun damage?

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Unfortunately, due to the change in ownership of this web site and the lack of response by the owners to my requests to remove my email address from all administrative-level notifications and functionality, I have decided to remove my posts on AKFF. Thank you for the great times, the fantastic learning experiences and the many many fish. If you are desperate for the old content of this particular post, it is available below base64 encoded and bzip2 compressed.

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Thank you noeskimo for sharing your story with us,.... very appropriate with the recent Movember charity call.

I for one was brought up on the beach...loved the sand and surf...in those days slip slop slap wasn't really understood, then everyone took cover and now the powers that be advise us that were not getting enough sun.

Good to hear you had the good sense to get yourself checked out and the offending bits removed, and continually being checked for further offending bits.

And Red....you dark horse.....a excellent layman's description of the situation, causes and non causes of a disease which is effecting or maybe effecting some or most of us in hopefully a very small way only.

As you know red, I'm not a doctor but you laid out the explanation very logically for all to understand.....

THANK YOU BOTH...for raising awareness and hopefully reducing some of the mystery , pain and misery associated with this horrible disease.

All the very Best ;-)
 

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It dosent hurt to bring these thing up as reminders,
Good one Dodge, Lucky they didnt take much more off your ears Mate,
What would you hang your sunnies off?

I have been lucky myself,always in the Sydney beach sun,always swimming comp every day training
Spearfishing,snorkeling,fishing,no sunscreen,did wear a hat though,at the appropriate time of course,
never had a cancer,have a few moles but nothing operable,hope it stays that way.
I have just started using sunscreen and I use "SOIRX"block and tackle sunblock.
spf30+ (actually rated over 44+ but they are not allowed to say that) and waterproof for 4 hours,
get it at your tackle shop.
www.44plus.com.au
Abner
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That's an excellent explanation redphoenix.

Cancer is a result of the buildup of genetic mutation coupled with a breakdown of the bodies mechanisms to regulate such mutation. I still get a laugh every time I see sensationalist journalism about a cure for cancer. Cancer is inevitable. If we live long enough we will all get cancer. It is just that we usually die of something else first. There is NO cure for cancer in general. Most of the major advances in cancer research have been in very specific types of cancers and the advancements usually only increase survival by a matter of months. There are a few exceptions. Eg. In specific types of stomach cancers which express a specific type of receptor (Thyrosine Kinase), there is now a medication out to block the receptor and stop cancer growth which has increased survival by many years.

As Red said, certain things increase the likelyhood of DNA damage occurring. Some are preventable, some are not. The other factor to add would be genetics. Fairhaired pale skinned individuals will burn more easily and have a greater risk of cancer than darker individuals.

The big preventable risk factors are smoking and sun damage.
 
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In terms of Skin cancers, there are three main types. Squamous Cell Carcinomas, Basal Cell Carcinomas and Melanomas (named after the type of cells they evolve from).

BCC and SCC usually develop through cumulative sun exposure. You can get them even if you don't get sun burnt very often, but get alot of sun throughout your life. Eg. builders who work on roofs, or those who work outdoors and don't get burnt but get alot of sun. BCC and SCC have a very low rate of malignancy. This means they vary rarely spread throughout the body to other organs and will very rarely kill you. They however cause alot of local spread and will continue to grow. I have seen some very nasty ones of the face and neck which have required extensive surgery to remove. Add in a large dose of denial, and these cancers are often very advanced by the time they get to medical attention.
 
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The most dangerout skin cancers are malignant melanomas. These usually develop from dysplastic naevi (pigment producing cells, sun spots/moles). about 2/3 occur in sun exposed areas and are related to sun damage. However 1/3 develop in absence of sun exposure and probably have a large genetic component.

These will kill you. Melanomas have a very high rate of metastasis. This means they spread through the body and can form deposits in the major organs, abdominal cavity, lymphatics and brain. Cancer survival can be measured by mean 2 year survival and 5 year survival (the % of people who are still alive at 2 years and 5 years). Even with full active treatment the survival at 5 years for a melanoma which has metastasized in very close to 0.

If melanomas are caught early, they can be excised with a reasonable cure rate. However because they spread so easily, even leaving a few cells behind can cause the cancer to reoccur and spread. So melanoma excisions are usually done with a Very wide margin.
 

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Had my first BCC cut out of my neck on thursday - only a small one - 5 stiches. I expect it won't be the last. Am now on a regular screening program.

Thanks Dodge for starting this important safety topic.
 

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Start of another summer..... so the annual bump up of this thread for benefit of new members to encourage slip, slop, and slap.
 

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yeah good warning dodge

2/3 queenslanders will get one and probably a lot higher for fishos

1 BCC
common,often look pearly, never metastasize, like the nose and face and often in areas that are painful to excise

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2 SCC
common, often look scaley, can metastasise but not that common. more like to metastasize on the lip

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3 MELANOMA
deadly, often metastasize after very shallow invasion (uually grow sideways first and need to be excised at this stage)
QLD highest rate in the world .

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cheers pete
 

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i know my mum has had a few bits and pieces burnt off her face each year or two. I also heard somewhere that some places havea system that will scan your body and basically take a photo and then when you come in on subsequent visits and they scan you it can spot the difference to assist in early detection. Does any one know of one of these places in Melbourne and if you need a referal from a local gp to go there?
 
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