G Day Mick , Welcome along and keep an eye out in Fishing Trips if ya want to catch up. It'd be good to hear about some of ya fresh adventures. With the PPB Snapper/Pinkies I guess the Mango's are targetting with bait, Sp's, fly and Trolled Hb's in different locations but around Ricketts Point/Blackrock area is a good spot RodL stuck us onto as it's close, reefy and holds fish. Ricketts Point area also has a year round resident Pinkie population to target while waiting for a crack at the bigger fella's to enter Port Phillip. The resident population is the one we've been having a crack at. There are some downsides about launching through a marine park however, sometimes uniformed beach goers believe you've been fishing in the park, and your not permitted to clean a catch back on the beach. The rangers seem to know we're not by now. We tend to launch from the Beaumaris Yacht Club. On the Hb front I guess trolling for pinkies isn't something I'd do from a boat (unless maybe trying to locate a patch), but from the yak it means getting a paddle in at the same time as a fish which I guess is a personal choice thingo. It can be effective given the right conditions, but Sp's and bait will also out fish the mooched Hb's on many occsaisions. I also tend to believe the fly and Sp skill set carries more art to it than trolling (but will never admit this publicly). As for lures, the 9cm Deep Thundersticks made by Storm are a discontinued lure but you can still pick the odd one up. They're a personal fav, but other Hb's work fine. Rod used a Berkley Frenzy recently to great effect, and both of these in natural colours are probably imatating the baitfish getting about Ricketts Point area. Anything similar should work well, it's probably more about when and how lures are presented anyways. That's not to say the hot colours, or fatter styles don't work either though. Presentations around 3m in depth seem to work around that area, and I'm thinking in general that if ya getting lures to run about a third of the way down for pinkies/snapper they will rise to take em no worries. BillyBob picks up real snapper as a Spaniard by catch up north, and his special isn't a deep runner. Paddle slow, and try a few stop/starts to work the lure. Best conditions seem to be first light/dusk, cloudy days with a bit of chop, and tide changes. If I could dial up and order like a pizza I'd take low light and a SW chop of 10-15 knots, and top it with a tide change. You're also likely to get a by catch of snook, pike, small coutta (if about), flatties if ya run near the bottom, and maybe the odd squid. The other fella's know their bait's and Sp's for some good info. Good luck and see ya soon.