[Breambo]

Hi Everyone,
I noticed today I had more water inside than usual, several litres at least.
Would this be normal hatch leak, the kayak is only a month old, or should I fill it with water to check for pinholes? Usually when I'm out the cockpit will fill many times. Is this normal leakage for an Espri? :?

 

[RedPhoenix]

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[hairymick]

G'day breambo,

fill her with water on the ground. if no leaks, check the hatch seals.

 

[Dodge]

breambo

My espri is always dry including 2 runs in the surf.

My grandson managed to close the front hatch one time without it being fully seated, and I only found it on the next opening, so be sure thay are all seated OK.

I had to reglue into position the seal in my Swing hatch [same type] within a few weeks of delivery, although I use it a lot so perhaps not a criticism of the type of hatch.

 

[PeterJ]

Make sure the bung was not cross threaded when put in , that did it on mine once.

Since then its been bone dry even after pounding through waves and getting the seat well filled

 

[sunshiner]

Hi Breambo

I have two espris. One which I bought third hand (my first yak) takes in a about half a litre in a three hour ocean trip, while the other, bought brand new, is bone dry, even after filling the cockpit when punching out through the surf. I suggest you contact the makers -- presuming you have the normal 10 year warranty.

 

[Breambo]

Yeah, thanks for the replies. My previous experience with my other sot , bone dry inside, however it had no hatches at all. Looking at the scupper entrance looks like possible manufacturer defect, possibly a couple of pinholes, will have to run some tests. I hope its not a manufacturer fault, means more time off the water while they fix it, or perhaps I'd be happier with a different product. :?

 

[Dodge]

Looking at the scupper entrance looks like possible manufacturer defect, possibly a couple of pinholes, will have to run some tests. I hope its not a manufacturer fault, means more time off the water while they fix it,

In recent months I read a swing had the same problem, and was easily cured in a few hours at the plastic bumper welding shop nearest the yak owner, and all arranged by the kayak manufacturer, and full warranty restored which included the welded area.

 

[Milt]

Bone dry here as well, never had a drop in there in well over 2 years???

Milt,

 

[YakAtak]

Breambo, what rod holders do you have? I have found that over a period of time I get a bit of water in the hull, and put it down to the holes in the rod holders taking on water when in a bit of splash. I hope that's all it is, but sure it will be fixed up for ya.

 

[PeterJ]

Breambo , did you find out what the problem was?? :?:

 

[Breambo]

No not really, I havent put any fixtures on the kayak, I just have a rocket launcher style holder off my crate at the moment , partly because so far the rod holders Ive seen around here are the ones with the hole in the bottom of them. I did see one type that were sealed and had a rubber cover and gasket built in but it wasnt for sale.
Ive been too busy fishing to have a good look, but its still taking water. Not enough to make me concerned at all, but it would be nice to not be so wet in the centre hatch area where I keep a bag with extra tackle etc.
I'm still stoked with the Espri and I guess Ive got 10 years to figure it out :?

 

[Dodge]

, partly because so far the rod holders Ive seen around here are the ones with the hole in the bottom of them.

I've installed 9 holders like that, and just sealed with silicone and let cure before installing, and put a piece of duct tape over bottom, as a backup, and am happy with result.
Could fill with water and still be there next day with only evaporation, no leaks

 

[Breambo]

Just had a bit of a check and the rear hatch wasnt quite fully turned shut, perhaps 2 cms. I was too lazy to check it before as it was under the crate. :roll:
Hopefully this will fix the problem. :idea: I 'll keep you posted.
I might have to go with the standard holder and seal it as suggested, if I cant find those other ones soon. Did someone mention on a previous post about plastic welding the hole in that style of holder ?

 

[Daveyak]

Most boating suplies shops have a range of sizes of black rubber plugs & the smallest of these is a perfect fit in the bottom hole of rod holders I've used. I push them in from the inside (top) of the holder, this is a bit fiddly to do but seals the holder well when pushed firmly into the hole. I've not bothered but you could make sure of seal by using some sealant as well.

 

[PeterJ]

When all else fails , silicone up a piece of pool noodle and shove down the hole :shock:

 

[RedPhoenix]

Unfortunately, due to the change in ownership of this web site and the lack of response by the owners to my requests to remove my email address from all administrative-level notifications and functionality, I have decided to remove my posts on AKFF. Thank you for the great times, the fantastic learning experiences and the many many fish. If you are desperate for the old content of this particular post, it is available below base64 encoded and bzip2 compressed.

Red.

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[Breambo]

Thanks for all the replies the problem seems to be fixed. Must of been that idiot who didnt check the rear hatch. I wonder who that was.
It must be watertight now as when I checked it the air rushed out under pressure from expansion, like it should, and the water inside was only drops from not drying completely before. [/b]