[YakAtak]

I came accross this post this morning, a proud old Dad (Bob, Hervey Bay) posting results of his daughter and family's fishing session in the sandy straights between Frazer and the mainland. Read on if you wish. I just have to know that I am not being a complete twit about this. :roll:
http://www.ausfish.com.au/forum/YaBB.cgi?num=1156987394

 

[hairymick]

Hi Karl,

I care, but from the post and the replies, it would seem that many around here don't. The wide bay area is reputed to be the ******* capital of Australia after all.

Line caught mullet, in the Great Sandy Straights - at night - no way IMHO

It's post like that one in ausfish that give the greenies all the ammunition they need to lock up even more of our water.

 

[YakAtak]

Thanks Matt, I didn't want to start a slinging match, so kept my responses to a minimum, but I really didn't expect to get two pages of people all saying it's fine if not encouraged to take that quantity of fish from an estuary that is still fighting it's way back from a very poor state. It's great to see the straights producing quantities of fish, but if I lived there I wouldn't be raping it like that, no matter how big my family may be.

Hi Karl,

I care, but from the post and the replies, it would seem that many around here don't. The wide bay area is reputed to be the ******* capital of Australia after all.

Line caught mullet, in the Great Sandy Straights - at night - no way IMHO

It's post like that one in ausfish that give the greenies all the ammunition they need to lock up even more of our water.

exactly my point Mick, cheers. I think the mullet were caught with a spear, or so they say, then again, wouldnt be surprised if they were all caught by means of square hooks... argh, anyway. :roll:

 

[PeterJ]

Never ceases to amaze me how people can judge anothers actions without knowing the facts.

 

[hairymick]

Couldn't see any spear marks. They were all scaled too I think. That would get rid of the net marks.

There are plenty of fisho's round here who care and take only what they need, and then there are also plenty of the other sort. This time of year, in the Burrum Heads caravan park, people are lined up filleting several hundred whiting, or buckets full of undersize tailer The next day, they do it all again and so on and on and on.

 

[fishtales]

I see no reason why they should not keep that catch. They only caught a few of each species, and I am sure that it will not go to waste. Some folk just can't help themselves in having a go at people who catch a feed.It certainly wasn't a blatent slaughter of fish.And correct me if I am wrong, these were not caught by the one person, but by a few.

my 2 cents

Chris

 

[RedPhoenix]

Unfortunately, due to the change in ownership of this web site and the lack of response by the owners to my requests to remove my email address from all administrative-level notifications and functionality, I have decided to remove my posts on AKFF. Thank you for the great times, the fantastic learning experiences and the many many fish. If you are desperate for the old content of this particular post, it is available below base64 encoded and bzip2 compressed.

Red.

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[Blaen]

I think Bob's reply in that thread answered some critics:

Yes Canoedle, It would seem like to many for some people but Marguerite and Dave have got 4 children and there all fish eaters and Dave also likes to give his parents a feed whenever he gets enough, also he only gets to go fishing about once every 6 weeks and when you equate this catch into meals it would be about the same as one 20 kg cobia or maybe a couple of good size snapper or reds. Also apart from the squid there are no more than 4 of anyone species and 4 of them are only one of. Regards Bob.

If they did have that many mounths to feed then, there is no problem if all caught fairly in my opinion. The problem comes from people who catch and kill dozens of fish and don't even eat them.

 

[YakAtak]

I agree Blaen, my issue with the thread is that I made a valid point and all I got was a lot of people shooting off their mouths about how I should shut up and I was aparently jealous of the catch. At least one person finally stepped up and defended my question for what it was, a request for justification, which as you stated, was clearly given. It just really annoys crap out of me when you see idiots with this attitude that they should be allowed to keep as many fish as they catch and fill the freezer if they can. Argh, anyway, off the soapbox now. :?

 

[HiRAEdd]

Assuming they were legally, line caught I see no problem with this catch. It's a mixed bag with only a few fish of each species. He's got a family that loves fish so a couple of family members can now feed a larger group of people. I'm all for preserving fisheries and obeying bag limits, etc. but that doesn't mean catching and keeping a really good feed every now and then is bad.

 

[Blaen]

I agree Blaen, my issue with the thread is that I made a valid point and all I got was a lot of people shooting off their mouths about how I should shut up and I was aparently jealous of the catch. At least one person finally stepped up and defended my question for what it was, a request for justification, which as you stated, was clearly given. It just really annoys crap out of me when you see idiots with this attitude that they should be allowed to keep as many fish as they catch and fill the freezer if they can. Argh, anyway, off the soapbox now. :?

You absoltuley had every right to ask the question mate and everyone else should have shut up until the original poster replied, if proper etiquitte was followed, but alas no one seems to know the meaning of the word these days. Except on this site, in my opinion this site has the most courtesous and respectful groups of people on line I have ever come across.

Being online often gives people a sense of security in their own anonimity and generally they use it to make total arses of themselves, the difference here is a lot of us interact, on and off line, so we have more respect for each other and can share things very freely and openly without fear of ridicule or abuse.

Anyway that's my 2 bob's worth. You were right to ask and others should have shut up till the original poster repsonded to the question, which would have cleared everything up.

 

[Polar]

Hi Karl,

The wide bay area is reputed to be the ******* capital of Australia after all.

With Gympie being the epicentre

 

[Peter_M]

Good thread - there are some big issues here...I think its OK to keep those fish if they are legally caught and they are ALL going to be eaten. In a global picture eating the fish probably means one less cow, pig, sheep whatever to be raised and consumed. Exactly the same happens in hunting, although even worse. Some shooters routinely slaughter hundreds of wallabies a night and leave 'em where they fall. Spoils it for the decent few who take just what they need.

Anyway, as far as ecological footprints are concerned (yes, I did watch Catalyst last night), yaks rule. No fossil fuel burning, combined with a sustainable method of fishing. I'm just trying to rig up a system whereby I can tow my rig on my bike. Police might not be that enthusiastic though.

 

[YakAtak]

I know a bloke that tows his 11foot canoe to the dam here, about 10Kms I think, and yes, on the back of his push bike, havnt seen his trailer yet, but when I do I'll take some pics for ya.

 

[Milt]

I love to fish and I love to eat fish so such a catch I'd also keep, even if they were a combination of line and spear caught. Like most fisherman I rarelly catch my limit because even in a boat it can take a long day to do so.

Limits are set for a reason and providing they are adheared to and all fish is eaten not wasted then thats ok with me. When limits are constantly being caught say every week by one angler then I guess it would be ok to call it a little gluttoness "if there's such a word"?

When ever i have a great day out on the water all excess fish I give to the neighbours or people that don't fish. for them to enjoy a fresh feed, rather than the so called fresh rubbish they buy at Coles or the fish market.

In my opinion anger should be directed at proffesional fisherman who catch undersized and sized fish due to there practises. I still believe the following saying holds true "10% of fisherman catch 90% of the fish" and its ok if 10% of us manage a fine range of fish this angler managed.

Milt,

 

[Peter_M]

Thanks YakAtak - I definately need some ideas for my 'trailer'.
Milt - I agree. I think bag limits on recreational catch are set with the idea that each angler probably averages about one day a week fishing, so catching the limit every day, while adhering to the letter of the law, is not really in the spirit of things.
Anyway, we all know that yakkers are neither greedy nor wasteful of natures bounty, and we can have a GREAT day fishing without burning a hundred and fifty litres of two-stroke fuel.

 

[fishbrain]

Not saying that fella's in the wrong but people have to be accountable for there own actions .I have a family of 5 I sometimes keep 2or3 nice size fish I fish 1 to 2 times week can catch between 30-50 fish a session .If I keep them all & gave them to the all the mums ,dads & neighbours or froze them that would piss people off but why would I deny my kids a moment like this photo and was proud to release it ,maybe if more people adopted this additude they might not have close fisheries down .Fishbrain

 

[Milt]

Nothing wrong with catch and release once you have caught enough fish and nothing wrong with bringing home a good bag of fish every now and again so long as its not to often that it goes to waste and is not enjoyed.

Its all part of being a good neighbour for me, giving them a couple of meals worth of fish a few times a year. Mostly of fish that doesn't cope well with freezing like salmon and tailor for example.

Milt,

 

[Magicrik]

For me the story or post is boring so i dont really care......but yes too me it looks like alot of fish but like people have said we do not know the facts.........all we know is that the fish was not caught by one person.
But even if they was.......we dont know why he kept them.....family get together, party who knows.
I look at it like this thou food is food is food....if we dont it, somthing else will.
Or look at it like this, what he dont eat he'll throw away and the crabs will eat it and we all get bigger crabs :lol:
The only thing that pisses me off is killing fish that you cant identify.
Its pointless IMO because you cant eat it and if you do that even more stupid
But thats MHO ill stop talking now

 

[milan72]

OK where to start??

I have come into this thread after a few posts have been made so there are a number of things I want to add.

Firstly, from what I can see the the pictures indicate that this guy tried to present a legal catch especially with the rule included in the photo. This is not to say that this is all he caught but lets assume he did.

Secondly, I see nothing wrong with raising questions about wether there was a need to keep all of that catch. Caring about our environment and our impact on it should be on all of our minds but that is not to say that there is no legitamate reason (if this catch was legal and I am assuming it is) why this person should not keep it all. His explanation, I think, is acceptable.

Then we get on to Blaen's post which I, in my short time here, totally agree with about the people on this site. This sadly was followed by Polar's post about ******** and Gympie being the epicentre. I come from Gympie and whilst I did not feel that this was a personal attack on me or a judgement on my character I would like to stand for Gympie's defence. Sure there a seedy people there, like everywhere! Hang around the Valley and you will find people that you would not invite in your home under any circumstances, but then there are some that would be considered as fantastic personalities with great values. Gympie, Wide Bay and for that matter anywhere in this globe we call Earth will present the same situation. Who is to say that the people that made this catch are not genuine people like most of us here???!!!

Without knowing them or the facts of the matter at hand, we should not cast judgement and maybe, Polar, you should try adhearing to the attributes of the majority of us here, as Blaen described. Let's ask the questions, raise the issues, have our opinions but lets not cast judgement on people we don't know and on situations we know little details about.

I am not a philosopher nor a fence sitter. Let's just be fair to all!

Cheers,

Milan.