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Interesting Salti. Bit off topic, but they're so iconically Aussie, here goes:
More fun plant facts:
Red gums are called blue gums in some parts of Australia.
There are two species of red gums:
Eucalyptys tereticornus (Qld ********) - alluvial flats (can form a forest) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eucalyptus_tereticornis
http://www.google.com.au/imgres?imgurl= ... A&dur=1284
http://www.google.com.au/imgres?imgurl= ... Q&dur=4123
Eucalyptus camaldulensis (River red gum) - lining inland and western river banks and watercourses (under which many a Murray cod has been caught) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eucalyptus_camaldulensis
http://www.google.com.au/imgres?imgurl= ... gISgbSM%3A
http://www.google.com.au/imgres?imgurl= ... Qb8tsoM%3A
More fun plant facts:
Red gums are called blue gums in some parts of Australia.
There are two species of red gums:
Eucalyptys tereticornus (Qld ********) - alluvial flats (can form a forest) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eucalyptus_tereticornis
http://www.google.com.au/imgres?imgurl= ... A&dur=1284
http://www.google.com.au/imgres?imgurl= ... Q&dur=4123
Eucalyptus camaldulensis (River red gum) - lining inland and western river banks and watercourses (under which many a Murray cod has been caught) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eucalyptus_camaldulensis
http://www.google.com.au/imgres?imgurl= ... gISgbSM%3A
http://www.google.com.au/imgres?imgurl= ... Qb8tsoM%3A
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Never heard of that one Con, but despite studying them for some time, it is not surprising, as there are about 720 species in Australia (and a small number into PNG and beyond). They range from forest giants (E. regnans - the Victorian mountain ash, reaching heights of over 100 metres), to tiny 'mallee' eucalypts a metre or so high (quite a few of these are from WA). They speak 'Australia' to many Aussies, especially when away from home overseas.Barrabundy said:
Eucalypts are special to me for many reasons, being a symbol of the bush, koala food - about 30 species identified to date, and because they featured in many of our most famous aboriginal artist's paintings, the revered Albert Namatjira. In the words of Bruce Woodley from the Seekers, when he wrote 'I am Australian':
"I'm a teller of stories, I'm a singer of songs
I am Albert Namatjira, and I paint the ghostly gums..."
https://www.google.com.au/#sclient=psy- ... 36&bih=694
http://www.google.com.au/imgres?imgurl= ... EwAw&dur=7
BTW, I found a pic of 'your' tree:
http://www.google.com.au/imgres?imgurl= ... Aw&dur=743
I confess to cuddling quite a few.
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Having been a chippie most of my working life, I've used lots of different timber species constructing houses etc.
From apprentice days, (around 1955, when I was 14 years old,) I've been told that Tasmanian Oak and Victorian Ash were the same timber... they certainly look the same, (in the timber stage definitely, possibly not as a tree, something of which I know nothing) and have the same qualities e.g. the decks on trucks are usually made of this timber, due to its ability to stay true (not warp, cup, twist, or such) in the extremes of weather that trucks endure, and is a very durable timber.
They also both have distinctive blood (?) veins that separate them from other species... these blood veins are the first tip-off for me when I attempt to distinguish the timber.
What do you tree-lovers think about that?
Could they be the same tree, just growing in different states?
I have heard it bandied about that Tassie was part of mainland Aussie way back in the past, and if that be so, the two trees could possibly be the one and the same.
Toss that one about for awhile.
Cheers, Jimbo
From apprentice days, (around 1955, when I was 14 years old,) I've been told that Tasmanian Oak and Victorian Ash were the same timber... they certainly look the same, (in the timber stage definitely, possibly not as a tree, something of which I know nothing) and have the same qualities e.g. the decks on trucks are usually made of this timber, due to its ability to stay true (not warp, cup, twist, or such) in the extremes of weather that trucks endure, and is a very durable timber.
They also both have distinctive blood (?) veins that separate them from other species... these blood veins are the first tip-off for me when I attempt to distinguish the timber.
What do you tree-lovers think about that?
Could they be the same tree, just growing in different states?
I have heard it bandied about that Tassie was part of mainland Aussie way back in the past, and if that be so, the two trees could possibly be the one and the same.
Toss that one about for awhile.
Cheers, Jimbo
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Jimbo, i am pretty sure Victorian Ash is Mountain Ash which certainly grows in Tassie. The old growth forests of mountain Ash like in the Florentine area is the basis of a lot of the forest wars down here between timber harvesters and the environment groups. I have been lead to believe that Tassie Oak is a generic name for a few Tassie hardwood species so they may have been one and the same.
It appears you and Jimbo are correct Scott.Scott said:
http://www.tastimber.tas.gov.au/Species ... peciesID=1
Over a phone call around 15 minutes ago, Trev and I discussed this thread, and I sincerely hope that the cloning of trees really gets a go on.
One species that was almost completely wiped out by the timber-cutters was Red Cedar... what a lovely timber... made beautiful furniture... was extremely hardy, and prior to the invention of plastics, was, when permanent fixing was needed, the timber always used for plugging holes in brick and concrete walls, concrete floors etc., as it wasn't susceptible to rot, and held screws and nails well... (I still have a piece of red cedar in my tool box that has been with me since my apprentice days in the late 1950's).
I also have a red-cedar kitchen table secreted away in my attic... couldn't possibly give it away... that would go against all my natural instincts.
Trev reckons that when the timber-cutters were going hot and strong wiping out entire forests of it, it was called Red Gold.
Wouldn't it be great if cloning could bring back forests of this wonderful timber.
Cheers all, Jimbo
One species that was almost completely wiped out by the timber-cutters was Red Cedar... what a lovely timber... made beautiful furniture... was extremely hardy, and prior to the invention of plastics, was, when permanent fixing was needed, the timber always used for plugging holes in brick and concrete walls, concrete floors etc., as it wasn't susceptible to rot, and held screws and nails well... (I still have a piece of red cedar in my tool box that has been with me since my apprentice days in the late 1950's).
I also have a red-cedar kitchen table secreted away in my attic... couldn't possibly give it away... that would go against all my natural instincts.
Trev reckons that when the timber-cutters were going hot and strong wiping out entire forests of it, it was called Red Gold.
Wouldn't it be great if cloning could bring back forests of this wonderful timber.
Cheers all, Jimbo
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