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Why not jig?

Postby Tom84 » Fri Jul 20, 2012 5:24 pm

There's been one thing that I always think of with kayak fishing why does no one seem to use jigs or at least not say they do? Would it be a problem if the fish took being straight down?
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Re: Why not jig?

Postby Barrabundy » Fri Jul 20, 2012 6:36 pm

You'd probably find many of us jig in one way or another. I jig with soft plastics where there are deep holes. Sometimes I get a hit straight away and other times I'm disappointed.

I think some of the snapper fisherman jig also.

When does jigging become a slow troll or drift fishing? I often drop a soft plastic down and just jig it up and down while the current moves me along. I do this both in freshwater and in the salt.
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Re: Why not jig?

Postby Couta101 » Fri Jul 20, 2012 6:52 pm

I think the biggest issue with jigging is the fact the the waters we fish off shore are not really deep enough to effectively work the jig. We usually only end up fishing 15-20 m 25m if we are lucky. You probably could do it at that depth but you would need to find a bommie or pinnicale and use a fairly small jig 60-80 g. Any bigger and I think you would be waiting your time.

I wish there was deeper water closer in, I would be jigging my heart out....the takes are awesome!
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Re: Why not jig?

Postby Artie » Fri Jul 20, 2012 9:29 pm

80gram jig, cant see a problem myself.... :D

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Re: Why not jig?

Postby MrX » Fri Jul 20, 2012 10:08 pm

Plenty of success on the big jigs up here off Sydney in 10m to 20m targeting kings. SBD, Avayak etc have had plenty of success in the summer.

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Re: Why not jig?

Postby bunsen » Fri Jul 20, 2012 10:31 pm

Yeah, you just can't fish your drag settings on sunset like you do in a boat. Unless you like doing Eskimo rolls that is.
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Re: Why not jig?

Postby bunsen » Fri Jul 20, 2012 10:34 pm

Hi tom, just noticed you have almost exactly twice as many posts as me!
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Re: Why not jig?

Postby Couta101 » Fri Jul 20, 2012 11:17 pm

Seems you lot down south have a better response to shallow water jigging which is great very jealous

For all the jigging I've done between gold coast and noosa it's been nada for me....... :? Either I'm doing it wrong or the fish up here don't like to play with others ;-)
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Re: Why not jig?

Postby keza » Fri Jul 20, 2012 11:51 pm

I would say jigs account for more of our kings than anything else.
I use from 90 to 250g jigs. The kings do go hard on jigs.
I don't think I've caught anything else on them except samson.
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Re: Why not jig?

Postby bunsen » Sat Jul 21, 2012 6:18 pm

The old sergeant baker doesn't mind a jig either unfortunately.
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Re: Why not jig?

Postby kayakone » Sat Jul 21, 2012 7:49 pm

keza wrote:I would say jigs account for more of our kings than anything else.
I use from 90 to 250g jigs. The kings do go hard on jigs.
I don't think I've caught anything else on them except samson.



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How does the jigging compare to the downrigging of live or dead baits?

I am assuming you are using octa jigs, not stick jigs??


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Re: Why not jig?

Postby keza » Sun Jul 22, 2012 10:38 am

Leaf or spike jigs Trev, not octa jigs.
Jigs work great in conjunction with a sounder. If you think it's a school of kings underneath you, you'll find out pretty quickly with a jig.
Bonito also hit a jig but kings go pretty hard when you jam a hook into the roof of their mouth at speed.
Downrigging I feel is a bit more for prospecting.
The days when we have hook 30 to 50 kings in a session are on jigs, it's fast and efficient but like all things, they wont always hit them, I think they need to be in feeding mode, where as they would probably take a live squid hungry or not.
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Re: Why not jig?

Postby kayakone » Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:47 am

keza wrote:Leaf or spike jigs Trev, not octa jigs.
Jigs work great in conjunction with a sounder. If you think it's a school of kings underneath you, you'll find out pretty quickly with a jig.
Bonito also hit a jig but kings go pretty hard when you jam a hook into the roof of their mouth at speed.
Downrigging I feel is a bit more for prospecting.
The days when we have hook 30 to 50 kings in a session are on jigs, it's fast and efficient but like all things, they wont always hit them, I think they need to be in feeding mode, where as they would probably take a live squid hungry or not.



Ah, I see now Kerry. Spike jigs (Bought some a while ago off Craig450 (cause they were cheap - I had no idea what they were good for). I guess you need deep water, a sounder, and a stiff rod??)...

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/River2sea-12 ... 53ed6e87de

So this is the style...? Maybe something a bit smaller though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=en ... kNrP4&NR=1



Not going to be any good for Scarby at 6 metres max. Have to get onto the AI and head for deep water methinks.



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Re: Why not jig?

Postby Artie » Mon Jul 23, 2012 11:09 am

That looks like such hard work...Ill stick to the flattys and Snap.... :shock:
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Re: Why not jig?

Postby kpac » Mon Jul 23, 2012 3:45 pm

Artie - how nice is that snapper!!! sweet fish.
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