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Re: Setting up my Stealth Evo 465

Postby Scott » Wed Sep 19, 2012 8:23 am

After seeing the incredible job you did on your BFS i have been waiting for this as soon as i heard you got the EVO. I will be watching with great interest so i can steal some ideas.
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Re: Setting up my Stealth Evo 465

Postby Couta101 » Thu Sep 20, 2012 1:55 pm

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Nice neat job, did you put in a rear inspection hatch? I think I may need to to allow more drying out. Pics mate pics keep em coming
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Re: Setting up my Stealth Evo 465

Postby richmond » Thu Sep 20, 2012 8:27 pm

No doubt about you Brad, you're a gun modifier. Very cluey.

Plenty of thought goes into your work, well done mate. ;-)
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Re: Setting up my Stealth Evo 465

Postby dru » Thu Sep 20, 2012 9:09 pm

Brad step one for fishing with a brand new Stealth... A jigsaw. :shock:

As expected mate, utterly didactic. PHD and Senior Prof (Yak Pimping). Please add these letters to your business cards.
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Re: Setting up my Stealth Evo 465

Postby kas » Sun Sep 23, 2012 10:02 am

Very neat set up indeed there brad, well done 8)
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Re: Setting up my Stealth Evo 465

Postby dru » Wed Oct 03, 2012 4:33 pm

(On a perception swing:) BBW used to use Scotty rod holders in front so he check the rod tips. That was definitely for pelagics (the Spanyish Mack king). I found the location troublesome if you have a good extended reach on the paddle catch. Using an 8" extender eased this issue, but no way as solid as the deck mounts. I like your way indie.
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Re: Setting up my Stealth Evo 465

Postby dru » Sun Oct 28, 2012 2:43 pm

Sweeet. Watching closely.
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Re: Setting up my Stealth Evo 465

Postby dru » Sun Oct 28, 2012 5:48 pm

Brad, I'll be taking time here. Very nearly bought a Toura a couple of months back. Otoh I think the 575 is in a marketplace of 1 for the serious off shore game fisher.

My needs right now, balancing fishing with getting SWMBO on the water, the 465 is perfect. But then I can't wait for the new 475, I suspect it's going to be another level of Stealth awesome.

AND then there's the new Tiderace SIK range. I'll be playing with one soon which is a very silly decission. AND expedition Kayaks have been working with Zegul on a new SIK that seems designed just for me.

Yet another AND, if I do get my self sorted for a more adventurous GBR trip, the choice becomes 575, Tiderace, Zegul. God knows what you do with that kind of choice.

In the mean time... I will be reinvigorating the Swing for summer, not a choice I find boring in the slightest. :D

Exciting things happening in the world of kayaks at the moment.
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Re: Setting up my Stealth Evo 465

Postby Salty Dog » Mon Oct 29, 2012 12:21 am

Great stuff Dru, nice set up. Good to see someone sharing ideas with those of us that are more nervous about chopping up our boats to make improvements.
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Re: Setting up my Stealth Evo 465

Postby psy » Fri Nov 09, 2012 4:24 am

:) Awesome mods Indie.
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Re: Setting up my Stealth Evo 465

Postby jasondstub » Fri Nov 23, 2012 5:34 pm

I love the way you've rigged your kayak,. Im thinking of ordering a stealth in the uk, im also looking at the lowrance dsi finders, how do you find it shooting through the fiberglass? if youve got it to work i think a pro fisha might be on the xmas list!
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Re: Setting up my Stealth Evo 465

Postby jasondstub » Sun Nov 25, 2012 8:17 pm

I went only interested in the evo and came back wanting the pro fisha. I've not been in the 475 yet, but I want one after paddling the 575! Just the 575 a bit big for me and for me to store. Your gonna want one!!!
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Re: Setting up my Stealth Evo 465

Postby Stevie » Fri Dec 28, 2012 6:40 am

indiedog wrote:Rod Chute Hatch and Wet mount install.

Tools needed; 100mm hatch, 6 x 3/16 x 1 SS countersunk bolts with nyloc nuts, a Dremel or hacksaw blade to cut the wall out, a drill, pencil, Sikaflex 291 Marine Sealant (white), face mask, safety glasses, 25mm black EVA, Cutting board, Small spanner, phillips screwdriver.

Not much new here in how I went about this but I’ll explain in detail. It’s important to access the outer hull area where there’s only one skin of glass (and more importantly, no air) for the transducer to get through. I again chose the area beside the fish box as it’s the most convenient. I did consider the rear hull but discounted it as you still need to get the cables from there up to the front somehow so would still need to get through the fish box side wall to manage this.

A 100mm hatch was purchased from Whitworths and the position worked out inside the chute to clear the foot wells and make sure there was room for the fixings and the proposed backing plate. The position of this was penciled onto the side wall. Note that the lid of most hatches seems to be the same diameter as hole that’s required to fit the section that goes through the wall, so the lid was used as a template to mark out the size of the hole in the wall.
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I purchased an Ozito (Dremel copy, about $50 complete with flexible shaft) and used this to cut out the hole. It’s an awkward job due to the position and easier with the Ozito (I did do the BFS with a hacksaw blade and managed it but it was painful). Make absolutely sure you use a face mask here as breathing in fibreglass dust is not good for you. Also use goggles if possible. Once the hole is cut slip the hatch frame into place and make sure it’s all good. Mark through the fixing holes with a pencil and drill them out either with a small drill or the Ozito.
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I always use a backing plate when I install hatches or rod holders. The glass of the rod chute walls and the top deck is not that solid and if you only fit the hatches/holders in with say 6 bolts or screws then there's only a small area of glass stopping that bolt/screw from pulling out. The other thing is that by cutting a whopping great hole in the wall/deck, you are weakening the structure of the yak. The glass can still flex if unsupported between the bolts so if there's any stress in the yak (say going out through the surf for example) then this is the obvious weak point in the system. Using the backing plate helps to lock the wall into its original position and keep it all tight, plus it spreads any loads evenly around the opening, not just in the bolt hole area. I've found plastic cutting board to be the best as it is waterproof, UV stable, and cheap.

For the backing plate again use the lid as a template and mark out the internal hole diameter and cut out with a jigsaw. Again plan this out as you can sometimes fit one backing plate inside the centre of another as I did using a 100mm and 150mm hatch. Next cut the outside diameter of the backing plate. You’ll end up with a frisbee looking circle. Slip this over the back of the hatch frame and mark and drill the bolt holes. With a hacksaw cut the backing plate on one side only so that you can spread it sufficiently to corkscrew it into the smaller hole in the side wall. It’s worth doing a practice fit before the sikaflex goes in as you don’t want to discover things don’t line up once that’s on (Note this is a good time to install the wet mount foam pad so skip down to that bit before completing the hatch install). Once you are happy and the backing plate is in put a couple of bolts in from the outer hull side and then use these to fit the plate to the rod chute wall. It’s now ready for final installation. (Take a look at the last pic in this post to see backing plate in place as described.
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Take the hatch frame (with the lid out) and generously cover the back of the flange with Sikaflex. Position this into the hole in the rod chute and line up with the 2 bolts already in place and then fit all the way in. Install the other 4 fixing bolts the correct way using the small spanner and phillips screwdriver and then turn the two guide bolts around so that all 6 are now in the right way. Wipe away the excess Sikaflex and clean up with a chux dipped in mineral turps. Job done.



OK...Im going to attempt to replicate this install on the 575! Wish me luck

Nb. Im a bloody goose, I just finished mounting the transducer under the seat (didnt want to cut into the wall to be honest and theres lots of room way back under the seat) Took to spin yesty, no reading. Then it occurred to me there's some space between the bottom of the yak and the bottom of the fish hatch even though its probably only a few mm which is probably buggering up the sounding (its bounces off 2m deph for some weird reason).



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Re: Setting up my Stealth Evo 465

Postby Stevie » Fri Dec 28, 2012 2:50 pm

Cheers mate

Yeah I have done a few before, this one tricked me with the air space, Im a dingbat. I Siliconed in the Tranducer too :twisted: so its a pain in the Ringhole to undoo...ahh well.

The Screen install works nicely, decided to move it towards me and not on the lid, the small and low profile 4x works well here. I put the battery in a padded camera bag and shoved it up next to the Transducer, and velcro'ed the cable in on the other side. Was a good idea tat he time..... :lol:

I will get to work over the next week and cut the hole out as you have done mate.


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Re: Setting up my Stealth Evo 465

Postby scater » Fri Dec 28, 2012 7:42 pm

Brad I only just saw this thread. It looks like the transducer is at an angle due to the curve of the hull, is this right? Wouldn't that affect the depth reading?
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