State of Origin fish-off

[dru]

I don't suppose we can offer bonus point for each different species?

There is a strategy here, looking through the HOF. My gun local current species is tailor, but they won't hold up well against the supersize HOF. Anyone know anything about fishing for mullet?

[patwah]

Anyone know anything about fishing for mullet?

a little, they bite though when you trap them

[nezevic]

Anyone know anything about fishing for mullet?

The best burley is a sideways v8 commodore. It'll bring them in from miles away. Then try to tempt them with some vb.

[dru]

Ok got it. I'm going to s##t all over that HOF though. Best strategy ever. Best target locations? There could be state advantages here. Who has the biggest mullet?

[Junglefisher]

Just to be clear, I'm not suggesting at all that upgrades are not allowed.
What I don't want is 30 posts by the same person, each one with an upgrade. Would be a nightmare for the scorer to sort through hundreds of posts like that.
One post each, either not until the last week or edited as you upgrade.

[Junglefisher]

So... let me know if you disagree.

3 fish for each player, each of any species. I prefer having to go 3 diferent species but the numbers have spoken.
Scores for each fish as a % of the current HOF 1st place fish as at the start of comp.
Your 3 scores will be added together, but total team scores averaged by number of "players".
"Captain" gets double points.
Unlimited players per team, but must nominate before start of comp period.
Bonus points for the largest fish of each species caught in the comp period. 10 points or double points or 1.5 x points????? Suggestions????
HOF will not be updated, you can score 200 points for a fish that is 2x the 1st place HOF size. Obviously after the comp period, this will become the new HOF 1st.
Estimates are OK for C&R fish. Be honest.
12AM origin one = starting date, 11:59PM origin 3 = finish date.
Legal size only needed if not released. Must be within season though.
All fish to be caught from a kayak / ski / canoe.
What have I missed?

[Ado]

So... let me know if you disagree.

3 fish for each player, each of any species. I prefer having to go 3 diferent species but the numbers have spoken.
Scores for each fish as a % of the current HOF 1st place fish as at the start of comp.
Your 3 scores will be added together, but total team scores averaged by number of "players".
"Captain" gets double points.
Unlimited players per team, but must nominate before start of comp period.
Bonus points for the largest fish of each species caught in the comp period. 10 points or double points or 1.5 x points????? Suggestions????
HOF will not be updated, you can score 200 points for a fish that is 2x the 1st place HOF size. Obviously after the comp period, this will become the new HOF 1st.
Estimates are OK for C&R fish. Be honest.
12AM origin one = starting date, 11:59PM origin 3 = finish date.
Legal size only needed if not released. Must be within season though.
All fish to be caught from a kayak / ski / canoe.
What have I missed?

Well done sir for bringing ot all together. I concur.

[dru]

Yep, your a genius. Suggest 5 points bonus for biggest of each species. 10 or double might be too much of an advantage.

Any guidance on how to determine your SOO? Or do we simply run with current State you are fishing in?

[Junglefisher]

I think it should be the state you most affiliate with. This can be the state you were born in, lived in or currently live in. I for example, would like to fish for WA as I was born and grew up there. But, if I chose I could also fish NSW - lived there for several years, or Qld - live there now.
I also think there should be a participation bonus. Thinking if the captain gets extra points, then a team of 2 from say... WA would easily win. Especially as they could get the bonus points for largest of species with a bit of planning. So captian only gets a 10% bonus I think and each member gets one or two points added to final score (after averaging). This encourages participation. So more players will help with your score, even though having more players will likely drop your average score.
Then 5 points for largest of species, also after averaging or before?

[dru]

I think it should be the state you most affiliate with. This can be the state you were born in, lived in or currently live in. I for example, would like to fish for WA as I was born and grew up there. But, if I chose I could also fish NSW - lived there for several years, or Qld - live there now.
I also think there should be a participation bonus. Thinking if the captain gets extra points, then a team of 2 from say... WA would easily win. Especially as they could get the bonus points for largest of species with a bit of planning. So captian only gets a 10% bonus I think and each member gets one or two points added to final score (after averaging). This encourages participation. So more players will help with your score, even though having more players will likely drop your average score.
Then 5 points for largest of species, also after averaging or before?

Before. They get bragging rights anyway.

[indiedog]

Here's my take, bodgied from JF's post.

3 fish to be registered for each player, each of any species.
Scores for each fish as a % of the current HOF 1st place fish as at the start of comp.
Your 3 scores will be added together, but total team scores averaged by number of "players" for your team.
Highest score for each state gets double points BEFORE averaging of team points. (In lieu of "captain")
Unlimited players per team, but must nominate before start of comp period.
Bonus points for the largest fish of each species caught in the comp period. The angler catching the largest fish of the comp for each species will earn their state 3 bonus points AFTER the average scores have been worked out for each team. (Given the points per state should average between 50 and 70 (x3 if not averaged to per fish) at a guess, 10 points per fish is too much I think).
100 points max per fish registered except for biggest fish as above.
Estimates are OK for C&R fish. Be honest.
12AM origin one = starting date, 11:59PM origin 3 = finish date.
Legal size only needed if not released. Must be within season though.
All fish to be caught from a kayak / ski / canoe.

All fish caught to be stated in SOO thread within 1 day of capture to prevent a bombardment of fish at the end of the comp supposedly caught earlier in the comp. Allows the "score" to be displayed as the game progresses. Thoughts?

Is each state maximum total to be 100 (state average divided by 3 fish) or 300? (state average for 3 fish). This makes a difference to how many bonus points you should get for biggest fish. So if each angler is given a total out of 300 and then state score average is out of 300 then I'd suggest the bonus is 10 points per biggest fish. Clear?

[Junglefisher]

Each state's score will be out of 300, but bearing in mind participation bonus and captains bonus and biggest fish bonus and the fact that you can score over 100 if you beat the HOF... well it's not out of the question for a state to score well over 300. What I don't want is for the states with less "players" to have too big an advantage by catching a few "biggest of species" fish. Think of Daveyak and Couta1 being WA's team and you'll see what I mean.
The problem with the daily update of scores is it does not allow for upgrading. Will be very dificult for scorers to have to go back and change every time someone upgrades. This is why i think scoring should not be done until the final week. Maybe have a rule that all fish must be posted in the chat / trash talk thread within a week of catching otherwise they will not be eligible. Gives an idea of what you have to beat. Each participating state will have their own thread.
I know it's all sounding very complicated, but I have an idea in my head of what I mean and it's not that bad really.

[indiedog]

JF, I'm sure others were stating that max score for any fish is 100, unless they've changed position on that. By limiting it to 100 it limits the damage of those with abundant big fish and the targeting of macro-mullet on the overall comp. As to my comment on declaring what fish you've caught, there's no need to have the scorer update daily, I just thought it would be a good thing for everyone to declare what they've caught as the comp progresses so we can see how everyone is going, we can work it all out for ourselves if we need to up our game or not. At the end of the comp each player's 3 best fish will then be identifiable and entered into the final calculations. Would be boring if the score sheet is empty until the second last day of competition. Maybe a running score is roughly calculated by each state at SOO 2? (half time score). Upgrades are certainly allowed until close of comp but nothing to stop declaring what you've got in the meantime.

[Ado]

I'm happy to go under any rules. It's not sheep stations. I reckon it would be hilarious if someone killed it with a 1.5 metre mullet.

[indiedog]

I'm happy to go under any rules. It's not sheep stations. I reckon it would be hilarious if someone killed it with a 1.5 metre mullet.

How many points would patwah be worth?