Big reels, I compared the VM150 with the VS150 up at MO's last week, and its a hell of a lot bigger and heavier, almost double the weight for the same spool size, and not its fully water proof. Why no save the extra cash up if waterproof is your thing? VM150 is lighter and fully waterproof and a lot less chunky. I will admit though getting used to the non- bail takes a few trips but its not hard.