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Re: Light bream rods

Postby yeeyak » Mon Nov 21, 2011 6:14 pm

go the g loomis rods, cant beat them, you pay a bit more but if you break them they will replace them for a small fee. :D
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Re: Light bream rods

Postby KhoisanX » Fri Nov 25, 2011 3:10 pm

I have one of the older model Raider Bream Finesse 762 models, 2-4kg and 3-12g lures. a week ago I bought one of the new lure project 742 Vibe rods as a second rod (wife's getting keen on fishing :))
This is rated for 2-5kg lines and 1-8g lures. Been fishing once with it so far. The EVA grips are great; no cork chips like the older one!
The rods action is nice too - softer tip than my older 762, but plenty of grunt in the butt so it will handle a decent fish without any trouble. I chose this rod after tossing up against the new Raider II Soft Plastic 732 - this rods tip was way too soft to work plastics in my view so I took the lure project vibe model....happy so far.

It's true the componentry is now all Sea Guide or Pacific Bay...all to save cost of course, yet the rods retail at the same or more than before...inflation?????....nah!
That said they don't look too shabby and since mine works hard on the kayak I don't mind not using the premium stuff.
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Re: Light bream rods

Postby Bretto » Fri Dec 02, 2011 7:12 am

Picked up a new bream stick last night. Went the 1-3kg Pflueger Trion. Man is it light.

I don't really like the reels out on the market at the moment (and by that I mean the price of them) as I'm more of a "wait till they start to run out the model before purchasing high quality gear type of guy", so the Ci4 1000FML which keeps being recommended to me can wait till late next year. However, I did need something to run on this stick so I went for the budget Shimano Aernos 1000FA (aesthetically the poor mans Ci4 :lol: ). It'll do the job for me I'm sure and it didn't break the bank. Plus it hasn't been panned in reviews which is always nice, yet not completely conclusive.
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Re: Light bream rods

Postby BIGKEV » Fri Dec 02, 2011 9:19 am

What sort of budget are you looking at?

I have a 1-3kg mexican fire raider and have no hesitation in recommending these rods, they are also good value for money at around $100-$140, a shimano product too.

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Re: Light bream rods

Postby punchanello » Mon Dec 05, 2011 12:07 pm

Scrap my recommendation on the Lox Yoshi.

For the second time in a year the tip has snapped with no real pressure at all. That brings my total graphite rods owned to 7 and tips snapped to 2. For a rod that feels this good, it certainly has a glass jaw. :?
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Re: Light bream rods

Postby patwah » Mon Dec 05, 2011 12:15 pm

yeeyak wrote:go the g loomis rods, cant beat them, you pay a bit more but if you break them they will replace them for a small fee. :D


They will replace them for a small fee?

Think not, half the purchase price is not a small fee.
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Re: Light bream rods

Postby BigGee » Mon Dec 05, 2011 12:51 pm

punchanello wrote:Scrap my recommendation on the Lox Yoshi.

For the second time in a year the tip has snapped with no real pressure at all. That brings my total graphite rods owned to 7 and tips snapped to 2. For a rod that feels this good, it certainly has a glass jaw. :?


I have exactly the same combo and until a recent tournament I wanted to blow LOX up (no offence Stewie). Been through 2 tips myself. The first one was really my fault, treating it like a normal rod basically, then the second one just casting. The third one, my current one seems a little more survivable but it may be because I'm starting to treat it right. But should I have to I hear you saying!

I was going to get another one but these posts have reminded me not to go there again, not at that size anyway.

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yeeyak wrote:go the g loomis rods, cant beat them, you pay a bit more but if you break them they will replace them for a small fee. :D


They will replace them for a small fee?

Think not, half the purchase price is not a small fee.


Correct. What Yeeyak says was pre Shimano days I feel. What Mr Wah says is true today - definitely.

blueyak wrote:What ever feels nice when you pick it up in the shop.


Exactly. That's what I'm doing from now on and I reckon I'll start at the Pflueger stand. I got a 2-4 kg Trion recently ... really really like that rod.

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Re: Light bream rods

Postby punchanello » Mon Dec 05, 2011 1:04 pm

BigGee wrote:
punchanello wrote:Scrap my recommendation on the Lox Yoshi.

For the second time in a year the tip has snapped with no real pressure at all. That brings my total graphite rods owned to 7 and tips snapped to 2. For a rod that feels this good, it certainly has a glass jaw. :?


I have exactly the same combo and until a recent tournament I wanted to blow LOX up (no offence Stewie). Been through 2 tips myself. The first one was really my fault, treating it like a normal rod basically, then the second one just casting. The third one, my current one seems a little more survivable but it may be because I'm starting to treat it right. But should I have to I hear you saying!


I understand where manufacturers are coming from when they can't really be sure whether a break is as a result of misuse or product fault. But I have owned plenty of graphite rods of a similar weight rating and never had a tip break off until this one (twice).

Like I've said before, I think the rod design in itself is brilliant. I couldn't wait to pull it out of its travel case to use it on each occasion and plenty of people have used the same rod without issue. I just think I got a dud tbh.
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Re: Light bream rods

Postby grinner » Mon Dec 05, 2011 6:09 pm

Re rod tips breaking on graphite rods.

A very knowledgable shimano rep told me that they do sometimes make rods with a flaw or hot spot
If this is the case ,he reckoned the rod would usually snap the first time it was stressed. I actually had that happen and took it back the day after I brought it and the BFF bloke had the rep in the store . He showed me where the hot spot was. I just nodded politely. Som think if you get a new rod give it a good try out straight after purchase, may chuck some big lures about. If it breaks 6 months down the track it's probably user error.

I am with kev, been very very happy with the raider series except the cork falls apart.
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Re: Light bream rods

Postby punchanello » Tue Dec 06, 2011 11:03 am

grinner wrote:I actually had that happen and took it back the day after I brought it and the BFF bloke had the rep in the store.


That's what happened to me. Took it back the exact same day and they wouldn't replace it. 12 months on it snapped again because I looked at it funny.
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Re: Light bream rods

Postby premium » Wed Dec 14, 2011 12:10 pm

BrettoQLD wrote:Picked up a new bream stick last night. Went the 1-3kg Pflueger Trion. Man is it light.


Yeah i've got one of those, been loving it, nice and light and great for bream and general estuary fishing. Even got the Fuji brand guides, and only 110 bucks or so.
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Re: Light bream rods

Postby BigGee » Wed Dec 14, 2011 12:48 pm

premium wrote:
BrettoQLD wrote:Picked up a new bream stick last night. Went the 1-3kg Pflueger Trion. Man is it light.


Yeah i've got one of those, been loving it, nice and light and great for bream and general estuary fishing. Even got the Fuji brand guides, and only 110 bucks or so.


Me too and love it - good thing. The end doesn't come flying off like Lox rods either!
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Re: Light bream rods

Postby onemorecast » Thu Dec 15, 2011 11:06 am

BigGee wrote:
premium wrote:
BrettoQLD wrote:Picked up a new bream stick last night. Went the 1-3kg Pflueger Trion. Man is it light.


Yeah i've got one of those, been loving it, nice and light and great for bream and general estuary fishing. Even got the Fuji brand guides, and only 110 bucks or so.


Me too and love it - good thing. The end doesn't come flying off like Lox rods either!


got 2 Pfluegars 1-3 KG Trions and have had one for some time. Nice & light. Got the last one for $80 abotu a year ago which I thought was a pretty fair price.
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Re: Light bream rods

Postby jb2020 » Wed Dec 21, 2011 1:34 pm

+1 for raider II.
When I bought it, I put a few coats of 'tru oil' into the cork (gun stock oil) - after a few years and many a bream, the cork is as good as gold. I also clean it after every trip.

grinner wrote:I am with kev, been very very happy with the raider series except the cork falls apart.
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Re: Light bream rods

Postby Thefishy1 » Thu Dec 22, 2011 12:49 pm

Hay guys I like samarki I think thats how they spell it one of the best rods on the market but there r so meany go to the shop and pick them up that's the only way to find what u like. Remember u get what u pay for go samarki.
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